[IHUG] Re: i-hug-discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 3

[vivek shandilya]

Mr.Mahesh Aravind,
  If you are from physically in Bangalore, and if you can let,can I borrow the hurd CDs you have for a few hours copy it then return ?If yes Do reply.we can fix a appointment at both's convience.
  Mean while I am v m shandilya, got in here a few months back.Sort of waking up now!
  Thanks and regards,
  vms

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1. Installed Hurd; what now? (and some questions) (Mahesh Aravind)


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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 05:54:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mahesh Aravind 
To: i-hug-discuss at lists.sarovar.org
Subject: [IHUG] Installed Hurd; what now? (and some questions)
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Hi,

I'm pretty new to this list. So old-timers bear with my stupidities...

Yesterday, I installed the GNU/Hurd (Debian GNU/Hurd). The CD had been
with me for a couple of months (courtesy the nice guy asianetindia.com> of iLUG-Cochin), but various inhibitions, final-year
exams, projects, "other" personal problems privented me from trying it
out.

Well, to tell you the truth, it wasn't at all as exciting as I imagined
(shoulda tried compiling from src)! The installation didn't even last
an hour (heck, I was expecting a week). I don't know how you guys finds
its version, but this is what my `uname -a' says:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
GNU dulcinea 0.3 GNU-Mach 1.3/Hurd-0.3 i686-AT386 GNU
------------------------------------------------------------------------

I just went around my system, and thought about asking some ``doubts''
before proceeding to install more (X, emacs, etc...).

[If you find this too newbie-ish, pls direct me to a FAQ(s) section on
web. And I lack 'net at home (goes to a café once in two weeks), so
can't get on IRC (sue me).]

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Questions (in no particular order)
==================================

1. Why is there no /proc dir? Is there anything of similar
funcionality?

2. How do one change the console font (can't read all those UTF-8
encoded text how-tos). Is there something similar to
`consolechars' in GNU/Linux?

3. What exactly is the replacement for `sudo'? I saw a couple of
things like `addauth', `rmauth', `unsu', and `su', but they don't
have their man pages.

4. Is it wrong to use `mount'? I had to use `settrans -gf' to unmount
the CD-ROM (this one *really* had me). Should we employ a transaltor (I
think I'd have to get used to this) instead of plain ``mounting''?

5. How do one catch the boot messages? Like when you feel like
writing an article on installing the Hurd and wanting screenshots?
As a side-note, has anyone tried booting the Hurd thru an emulator
(I'm thinking `qemu')?

6. Where can one find a comprehensive (user-tweakable, *not*
hacker-tweakable) list of command-line options for the Hurd/GNU
Mach? And what does each one (like `--device-master-port') mean?

7. I had created a 2G logical partition with 1024 block sized ext2fs.
The installation program re-formatted it with a 4096 blocks. Is it
necessary for the Hurd (or Mach) to have bigger block-sized
partitions? (Hey, this ain't my ``production'' system!)

8. I selected the default locale as ``en_IN.UTF-8'' in the
installation screen. It isn't in effect. How exactly do one set
the locate (by hand)?

9. Why doesn't the /dev files have major/minor version numbers? All
are zeros.

10. Where can I find the rationale behind not using the /usr hierarchy
(I like it though, keeps the tree short). Should removable media
be mounted on /cdrom or /media/cdrom? Is there something like the
``GNU Filesystem Hierarchy Standard'' for the Hurd?

11. After ^D form the shell, the ``Vulcan-Nerve-Pinch'' beeps back at
me. How exactly do one shutdown the system (I login as root, and
issue a reboot).

That's it, seems like more will follow with my this weeks proding and
poking the system.

NOTE for the gurus: I didn't _do my homework_ before installing the
Hurd. Don't spank me for it.

Do you guys have a meeting place (we at iLUG-Cochin meets once in a
month)?

Répondez s'il vous plaît...

Regards,

Mahesh "another-GNUbie" Aravind
--

PS: Why exactly should we call it ``GNU/Hurd''. The Hurd is developed
for the GNU Project, by the GNU Project. So why not ``*The* GNU
Operating System''?


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