[+PLUS] Fwd: [Fsf-friends] Ankit Fadia : The real picture

Thu Apr 6 07:16:45 IST 2006

Hey,

Thats well written. They just wont understand. They are more or less like in
the world of matrix. They cannot understand , what is meant by freedom and
things like that, coz that is not programmed into their virtual world.

Around 4 years back, i had grabbed that copy of Unofficial Guide to Ethical
Hacking, and after first read was impressed. But when i started roaming
round the net, happyhacker.org etc... i lost all my impressions about the
author, for it is all copy paste.

Then i entered the world of debian, thats wen i really understood, how
childish are such things. Real Hackers learn to find where exploits occur,
how to solve it in the most creative way etc.. While these funny script
kiddies byheart all the vulnerabalities. Hey guys [ 2 u script kiddies], Why
cant u understand the basic fact that , b4 u byheart a vulnerabilities ,
just to give in enough pain to learn to know where,how,when vulnerabilities
occur and ofcourse the most challenging part, how to solve it.

GNU/Linux is a beautifull place to learn about security hacking. Moreover
security hacking is just one of the many areas of hacking. Others include
Algorithms, Operating Systems,  Cryptography, and much more..

Regards
Sumod

On 4/5/06, Anivar Aravind <anivar at gaia.org.in> wrote:
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Prabhat Sandheliya <prabhat.news at gmail.com>
> Date: Apr 5, 2006 3:30 PM
> Subject: [Fsf-friends] Ankit Fadia : The real picture
> To: Fsf-friends at mm.gnu.org.in
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Yesterday (03-04-2006)I attended a seminar by a so-called "Hacking Guru"
> Ankit Fadia, at DAVV, Indore (MP) auditorium. I just want to share my
> feelings with you.
>
> The Seminar was a complete failure, though it was attended by about well
> over 100 people, but was a complete disaster.
>
> The very first thing by which I was offended badly was using the sacred
> word
> "Hacking" to demonstrate something we, the hackers, call cracking. The
> seminar topic was "Ethical Hacking", now I want to ask Mr Fadia, what is
> unethical about hacking ? Hacking is very positive word and there in no
> need
> to put "Ethical" before it. By the way his seminar topic should be
> "Ethical
> Cracking".
>
> If you really want to become a hacker, please read an article by a real
> hacker, Eric Steven Raymond (ESR). The man who changed the history by
> writing a paper "Cathedral and Bazaar". please read the article here :
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html<
> http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/hacker-howto.html>
>
> The people who can not differentiate between hacking and cracking, should
> read an article by the GOD of hackers Richad M Stallman (RMS), the man who
> started GNU movement all by himself. The gcc (compiler), gdb (debugger),
> emacs (editor) are some of the most popular softwares in the world written
> by him. Please read the article here :
> http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_69.html
>
> The things Fadia demonstrated were ancient techniques used by crackers to
> break into some one's machine. Now a days even 10 year olds can download
> these tools from Internet to control others'  machines. Can we call them
> hackers ??  If he calls it hacking, I doubt if he understands the term
> even
> "Cracking", leave hacking altogether. This childish behavior is called
> script kiddie.
>
> IP spoofing, SQL Injection, password cracking softwares, Trojan horse
> programs, these are the tools of cyber criminals. So I wonder what is the
> significance of the term "Ethical" here ??
>
> In the entire session I kept waiting for some program or utility, written
> by
> himself. But I don't thing he had something like this to share with
> audience. The entire session was demonstration of third party utilities,
> and
> the saddest thing was no  mention of the name of any author of any
> utility.
> He didn't care to give some credits to the utility developers. What a
> shame
> !!!
>
> Mr Fadia, I real hacker always respect the creativity of others, and
> before
> using their work proper credits are given, this is the hacker's attitude.
> It's not like that, you download something from Internet, use it and
> forget
> the person, who made it. That's pretty mean.
>
> Second most annoying thing was that he calls himself a "hacker" and was
> using a Windows XP operating system ????
>
> I have been in to computers for the past 10 years and I never come across
> any real hacker who uses Windows. I met Brian(Apache creator), Andy Cleen,
> Alon cox, Rusty (all networking gods), RMS (the GOD himself) but all of
> them
> were using some or other form of Unix or Linux.
>
> Come on, MR Fadia, Windows is the worst OS in the world, full of security
> holes, so what is the point to break into a  Windows machine ???? What do
> you want to prove ????
>
> He only once mentioned Linux, just to tell how you can use it's live CD to
> boot a Windows machine and cracke the password.
>
> Actually, before attending the seminar, I Googled a lot about Fadia and
> his
> work. But what I could find was self acclaiming statement by Fadia about
> himself and his future and just crap, crap and crap by technology
> illiterate
> Indian news papers' reports.
>
> I just want to share my findings with you.
>
> Vulnerabilities patches by Fadia          =     0 (He may know how to
> break
> in, but doesn't know how to fix up)
> Bugtraq id's by Fadia                          =     0
> Hacking / Security tool by fadia           =     0 (He simply Goolge and
> download the tools from Internet, that's not cracking. Actual cracker
>                                                                   is the
> programmer, but Fadia never ever gives due credits. Now that's not
> hacking,
> that's
>
>                                                                   stealing)
> Any open source software by Fadia     =    0 (He is afraid of suggesting
> Linux to people, 'coz it's secure)
> Any Linux or Windows software security patch   =     0
> Any recommendation or recognition by Real Hacker Community   =     0 (They
> laugh at him. He is just a kid)
> Software / Cryptography patents by Fadia        =     0
> Algorithms by Fadia                                       =     0
> Any official citation by FBI/CIA/CBI for Fadia   =     0 (They don't even
> bother about any explanation)
> Any confirmation of his self-claims                  =     0 (Nobody,
> expect
> him knows, if they are real)
> Any confirmation of him decrypting Osama's message        =     0
> (Hahahahahahahaha)
> Any original technical tutorial or book by Fadia   =    0 (He simply copy
> the things and never he never ever gives due credits to the
>
> original authors.)
> Any originality in his tutes or books             =     0 (Hahahahahahaha)
> Skill level of Fadia                                     =     Only God
> knows !!!
>
>
> I tried to read a few books by him, but to my wonder some part of his
> books
> are nothing but simple "copy and paste" material from well known sites for
> Windows registry editing. Please visit www.winguides.com and compare the
> material with his first book. Oh God !  this is the clear violation of
> intellectual property rights of the website. Please inform the webmaster.
> I
> have done it already.
>
> I was astonished by the course he came to promote here, "Ethical hacker
> certified by Ankit Fadia" ! He sill is child in hacking field, and he is
> giving the certificates for hacking ?????  And worst thing, Reliance web
> world is promoting it. What a shame !!!  Have all gone mad ? Can't they
> see
> ?
>
> Unfortunately, question and answer round was cut from the seminar, that's
> also because of Fadia arrived there one hour late. Well, that's India's
> celebrity style statement. Otherwise, I would have asked all these
> questions
> to him there only.
>
> Anyways, I went to him at the end of the seminar, and asked if Windows is
> so
> vulnerable, can he suggest audience to use Linux rather than Windows. And
> the reply came was straight "NO". What a shame ???
>
> I understood the reason, why he said no. The reason is same why Microsoft
> does not patch up it's OS. Plain economics. If you make system secure with
> Linux who is going to ask for people like Fadia, so called "security
> expert"
> ???
>
> I want to make an appeal to all of you, please make all of your friends
> aware of these facts. Let one should not get undeserved advantage. I also
> want to appeal news papers, please do not make a hero out of nothing. Stop
> polluting the honest media by prejudiced reports.
>
> And at the end I want to tell Mr Fadia, that I don't have any personal
> problem with you or your achievements, but please behave properly in
> hacking
> community. We hackers are very positive people we never ever try to harm
> anybody, until he comes to our or our philosophy's way. Please stop
> calling
> your self a hacker, if does not understand the hacker culture.
>
> And for god sake, stop behaving like a child, now you are in college, so
> GROW UP !!!
>
>
> Prabhat.
>
> PS : I am sending this mail to Mr Fadia, Reliance web world, most of Linux
> mailing lists and all of my friends. Please post your comments at
> lug-indore at googlegroups.com
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